Comments on: Advanced Pinochle http://lebor.net Words trapped in amber bouncing through my mind like a superball in a paint mixer Sun, 05 Feb 2012 03:58:21 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Rita http://lebor.net/advanced-pinochle-bidding-and-strategy/comment-page-1#comment-24574 Rita Sun, 05 Feb 2012 03:58:21 +0000 http://www.lebor.net/?page_id=170#comment-24574 51 as a first bid should be used to signify aces around. This allows your partner to know that you have power if say you only have 14 meld. 51 as a first bid should be used to signify aces around. This allows your partner to know that you have power if say you only have 14 meld.

]]> By: chris/maine http://lebor.net/advanced-pinochle-bidding-and-strategy/comment-page-1#comment-24462 chris/maine Tue, 01 Nov 2011 22:44:11 +0000 http://www.lebor.net/?page_id=170#comment-24462 I have a few things i do during bidding and play to get your thougths on. First is i dont pass 10 meld . I say 50 for a save or a opening bid if i have no run. 51 if i have a run. I think this helps for situation like when my partner deals and i only bid 50 they can then decide if it would make more sense to bid one over if they have a run which may not even be stong or even a double marrige to aviod board sets. I see it also helps when a 50 bid thats not a save situation then attomaticaly lets my partner know i have a really strong trump suit so they then can feel better about passing meld they may not have before becuse they have no help. It also lets them know i have a good pull just no meld so if they have lets say a 6-7 card run they can bid over me and see what my top suite is(strong sutie) then trying to make that a run down sutie by first brakeing my suite then runing trump every chance we get while avioding my suite(our run down) until the end when hopefully all the trump has been played. I know this way runs the risk of losing control of the hand by taking out the trump but this is how the 50 pulls i've seen where done. Personaly im a big fan of runing trump from the start and often when i have a second suite or my partner shows me they have control of a suite by walking a 10 around the board or by playing a10 to force out an ace when they claimed aces or by having aces and not playing a particular suite because its a mutual agreement between me and my partner that it makes no sense to play a suite once you hold the boss cards in that suite because they will always be boss so it seems to make sense to hold them while trump is still out. Because trumping my partners books or viseaversa is the last thing we want hapening.Another thing i do which may be border line board talk is when my partner plays an ace when possible i play a king to let them know i have an ace in that suite and a ten if i dont have an ace. This also helps avoid having 3 pointer books pushed to the other team due to having less tens in suits i dont have an ace.Do you have any of these type stratagies i may find useful? I have a few things i do during bidding and play to get your thougths on. First is i dont pass 10 meld . I say 50 for a save or a opening bid if i have no run. 51 if i have a run. I think this helps for situation like when my partner deals and i only bid 50 they can then decide if it would make more sense to bid one over if they have a run which may not even be stong or even a double marrige to aviod board sets. I see it also helps when a 50 bid thats not a save situation then attomaticaly lets my partner know i have a really strong trump suit so they then can feel better about passing meld they may not have before becuse they have no help. It also lets them know i have a good pull just no meld so if they have lets say a 6-7 card run they can bid over me and see what my top suite is(strong sutie) then trying to make that a run down sutie by first brakeing my suite then runing trump every chance we get while avioding my suite(our run down) until the end when hopefully all the trump has been played. I know this way runs the risk of losing control of the hand by taking out the trump but this is how the 50 pulls i’ve seen where done. Personaly im a big fan of runing trump from the start and often when i have a second suite or my partner shows me they have control of a suite by walking a 10 around the board or by playing a10 to force out an ace when they claimed aces or by having aces and not playing a particular suite because its a mutual agreement between me and my partner that it makes no sense to play a suite once you hold the boss cards in that suite because they will always be boss so it seems to make sense to hold them while trump is still out. Because trumping my partners books or viseaversa is the last thing we want hapening.Another thing i do which may be border line board talk is when my partner plays an ace when possible i play a king to let them know i have an ace in that suite and a ten if i dont have an ace. This also helps avoid having 3 pointer books pushed to the other team due to having less tens in suits i dont have an ace.Do you have any of these type stratagies i may find useful?

]]> By: Chad http://lebor.net/advanced-pinochle-bidding-and-strategy/comment-page-1#comment-24379 Chad Fri, 23 Sep 2011 15:12:14 +0000 http://www.lebor.net/?page_id=170#comment-24379 Ok, yes, you can bump meld bid, but it becomes increasingly riskier and of diminishing value. There is still a legitimate strategy in capping or limiting your opponents communications by jumping to 60. As you point out, though, a well synchronized team can even find ways around that. Ok, yes, you can bump meld bid, but it becomes increasingly riskier and of diminishing value. There is still a legitimate strategy in capping or limiting your opponents communications by jumping to 60. As you point out, though, a well synchronized team can even find ways around that.

]]> By: steve http://lebor.net/advanced-pinochle-bidding-and-strategy/comment-page-1#comment-24375 steve Fri, 23 Sep 2011 02:06:28 +0000 http://www.lebor.net/?page_id=170#comment-24375 I would not count anything on iPhone pinochle as a learning strategy. I play games on it all the time and will just frustrate you with the bidding strategy. Use it for fun but not a real game. First is turn off passing. Almost no one plays that way. One thing about this article is wrong. You can meld bid over 60. Say you're in position 1 (dealer) and opponent in position 2 opens with 60, your partner bids 65 and opponent in position 3 passes. You have 30 or better meld, jump bid to 75, this tells your partner you have meld so if opponent in position 2 bids 80, your partner has the green light to bid higher. Bump meld bidding is an important part of the game. One thing in the article is completely correct, need to know how each other bid. So many times on Yahoo I've bump meld bidded only to get stuck with the bid. I would not count anything on iPhone pinochle as a learning strategy. I play games on it all the time and will just frustrate you with the bidding strategy. Use it for fun but not a real game. First is turn off passing. Almost no one plays that way.

One thing about this article is wrong. You can meld bid over 60. Say you’re in position 1 (dealer) and opponent in position 2 opens with 60, your partner bids 65 and opponent in position 3 passes. You have 30 or better meld, jump bid to 75, this tells your partner you have meld so if opponent in position 2 bids 80, your partner has the green light to bid higher.

Bump meld bidding is an important part of the game.

One thing in the article is completely correct, need to know how each other bid. So many times on Yahoo I’ve bump meld bidded only to get stuck with the bid.

]]> By: Chad http://lebor.net/advanced-pinochle-bidding-and-strategy/comment-page-1#comment-24368 Chad Wed, 21 Sep 2011 18:53:55 +0000 http://www.lebor.net/?page_id=170#comment-24368 Twister33c, I couldn't say for sure. I don't play with the passing variant. It is possible it is trying to even out the trump count between the two of you to better maintain a cross-trump. It could be trying to tell you how many trump it has, or how strong it is, based on the cards passed. Some people play where they try to drain all the trump as quickly as possible to better control the game in the other suits, and maybe it wants you to do that, leaving it with strong non-trump suits. If you find the answer, let us know! Twister33c,

I couldn’t say for sure. I don’t play with the passing variant. It is possible it is trying to even out the trump count between the two of you to better maintain a cross-trump. It could be trying to tell you how many trump it has, or how strong it is, based on the cards passed. Some people play where they try to drain all the trump as quickly as possible to better control the game in the other suits, and maybe it wants you to do that, leaving it with strong non-trump suits. If you find the answer, let us know!

]]> By: Twister33c http://lebor.net/advanced-pinochle-bidding-and-strategy/comment-page-1#comment-24361 Twister33c Sun, 18 Sep 2011 14:31:52 +0000 http://www.lebor.net/?page_id=170#comment-24361 When I play on my iPhone my A.I. Partner always passes me his trump cards... Why does it do that? I always hold on to my trump cards if I win the bid... When I play on my iPhone my A.I. Partner always passes me his trump cards… Why does it do that? I always hold on to my trump cards if I win the bid…

]]> By: 90 Tens :-) http://lebor.net/advanced-pinochle-bidding-and-strategy/comment-page-1#comment-24318 90 Tens :-) Tue, 28 Jun 2011 22:36:06 +0000 http://www.lebor.net/?page_id=170#comment-24318 Thanks a lot for your great advice. Very well written. I also have been playing online for many years and have only been an adequate player. I'm trying to take my play to the next level and this really should help! Thanks a lot for your great advice. Very well written. I also have been playing online for many years and have only been an adequate player. I’m trying to take my play to the next level and this really should help!

]]> By: Dave http://lebor.net/advanced-pinochle-bidding-and-strategy/comment-page-1#comment-23982 Dave Fri, 19 Nov 2010 21:06:24 +0000 http://www.lebor.net/?page_id=170#comment-23982 Finally some well explained tips on pinochle strategy. I think i found this on the 3rd or 4th page of google after typing in pinochle strategy but I appreciate the effort and easily explained methods. Finally some well explained tips on pinochle strategy. I think i found this on the 3rd or 4th page of google after typing in pinochle strategy but I appreciate the effort and easily explained methods.

]]> By: Cheryl http://lebor.net/advanced-pinochle-bidding-and-strategy/comment-page-1#comment-2823 Cheryl Tue, 16 May 2006 16:44:29 +0000 http://www.lebor.net/?page_id=170#comment-2823 I used to play double deck years ago, but not very well. As I try to get back into the game, these strategies have been extremely helpful. Thanx for the insight. I used to play double deck years ago, but not very well. As I try to get back into the game, these strategies have been extremely helpful. Thanx for the insight.

]]> By: Roxanne Lucky http://lebor.net/advanced-pinochle-bidding-and-strategy/comment-page-1#comment-1015 Roxanne Lucky Mon, 23 Jan 2006 20:34:07 +0000 http://www.lebor.net/?page_id=170#comment-1015 Thank you so much for the insight. I am new to the game and need this to get better. I have no one to talk to on the internet about why one move is strategically better than another. THis helps. THanks again. Thank you so much for the insight. I am new to the game and need this to get better. I have no one to talk to on the internet about why one move is strategically better than another. THis helps.
THanks again.

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